A Reflection of the cumulative degradation

http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2008/01/janmb/toilet%20%282%29-thumb.JPGPictures like these are an ugly urban reality these days. While everyone will curse the poor chap one needs to see things beyond the apparent i.e the culprit-guy perspective. No one does it for fun obviously. Naeem Sadiq wrote an excellent (& must read) article on Public Toilet Legislation at Chowrangi but I shall move on to a more practical aspect & limit myself to main idea.

A nation’s progress can be judged in many ways. There are the typical economic indicators available in books but there are other more practical ones too. One can judge the standard of a communication by the footpaths & manholes, the number of people stopping at RED signal will tell you about status of LAW, if people are in lane outside a bank will tell you about the education system & number of toilets & their condition will tell you about human (national?) dignity. While individual progress is hard to calculate these seemingly ignored aspects offer an outsider a good idea about where the nation is heading. Extinct informed the readers here that CPLC built 28 toilets in Karachi but compare that to the fact that Singapore has 70K toilets for its 4+ million population (just look at this) & Karachi has around 100 (exaggerated figure) for its 150 million. Isn’t that a shame?

As toilet is suppose to be a fundamental human right in a civilized world. If I had a Ginnie I would throw this guy to prison for wasting public money when we are in such a shambles in basic civic facilities. One can only pity at the level of disassociations the men in power have with ground realities. 300 million were enough to make at least 30 toilets, if I am not wrong. So it’s not that we don’t have the money, it’s not that we don’t have the labor, it’s all about misplaced priorities. I wish those at the helm of affairs could spend one day using public toilet to understand that 1000 odd story buildings is not what the KARACHIITES dream of. Could drink a sewerage leaked water to understand that allowing private filtered water companies doesn’t absolve a good government of its basic duties. We don’t require these 2030 fancy plans to prove we are quite futuristic when we have liabilities accumulating from past.

Its high time that we as a nation ponder over where our resources are going. Its right time public health, education & civics be the priority. If these issues are not addressed & ignored, just like in past a time will come when other nations would be making a mockery of our status. A Nuclear country that couldn’t properly provide its people required number of public toilets. And I haven’t yet touched the topic about public toilets for women.

[image : Babar Haroon]
Related : BBC, World Toilet

37 Comments so far

  1. Ali Yaqoob (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 4:10 pm

    Its a good business venture with a propect of having a unique brand :). build many of them around the city and charge 5 Rs and in time you will be a billionaire …

  2. D0CTOR (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 4:19 pm

    @Jameel/Pkhan/SirJee/AK/watani/Rajiv Parikh/Ali K/VOICE OF PAKISTAN/Barrister Ali K.Chishti/Ali/Jameel/xia/reality_check/Raza/softjoint/zee/imran/balma/Bozz/Huzefa/Rehan/Jamash/Fullstop/Masoor/MB …..

    and all the other multiple nicks and clones that love using

    kindly refrain from impersonating my nick

  3. Raja Islam (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
  4. SOUND FROM THE HEART (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 5:35 pm

    Ziaul Haq in his goverment passed an aorder to destroy all the public wash rooms as he thaught these were promoting “Fahashi and auryani” and the result of this act u can see in the image posted in this post , so once again the hell mullah mentality is the root cause of our problems , basically fahashi and auryani is not present in public wash rooms or model girls or actresses or porn movies it is present in the brain so since Zia ul haq brain was full of these dirty things so he was seeing “fahashi and auryani” every where.

  5. Raza (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 6:37 pm

    Hey D0C, I ain’t no clone!

  6. Pkhan (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 8:38 pm

    Do we all Have Civic sense? Even Public toilets are not going to be helpfull. USE McDonald/KFC /Pizza hut etc.

  7. Self (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 9:44 pm

    I just got this in email from someone.

    This pretty much sums up why Pakistan is in such a bad shape. We have no one else to blame except ourselves.


  8. d0ct0r (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 9:50 pm

    @Raza that was cloner himself trying to impersonate me..

  9. Ali K.Chishti (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 10:41 pm

    Raza stop pretending that you are not a clone,earlier you were cloning my nick as well and you also use nicks Ali K,Ali,AK KA don’t clone my nicks!

  10. Barrister Ali.K.Chishti (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 12:15 am

    I just stopped by Gizri, and saw this guy in the picture,he was wearing PPP arm band(if you look closely you will notice the red ppp arm band).i even heard him mumbling and cursing MQM while urinating, I then asked my Sindhi driver, and he said he knew the guy,He also confirmed he was from PPP.

  11. Barrister Ali K.Chishti (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 12:23 am

    @Barrister Ali.K.Chishti >> because I have a phatan driver!!!!

    PS. pls, could the moderators check on cloning ?

  12. Barrister Ali K.Chishti (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 12:34 am

    Raza / Doc,
    we seriously have a imposter amoung us? the
    ‘clone’ – i have a hunch it’s the quacko teeth mice-tro or could be someone else..

    could the moderators kindly check , i mean it’s that simple, check on the IP address of the messaging and one could find / pin point the ‘cloner’

  13. Hassan Abbas (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 1:21 am

    And I haven’t yet touched the topic about public toilets for women.

    there isn’t any. at least i never heard abt it

  14. ali-en (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 2:54 am

    Great topic to touch on with some great information provided. But let’s face it, even if we did have decent public toilets, the public would turn them into mucky messes, since many of our people are pretty hell-bent on abusing their privileges.

    P.S. You screwed up some figures (typos, I guess). Karachi’s population at 150 MILLION?!! And where did the 300 million people come from?

  15. d0ct0r (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:12 am

    not 300million people..he meant those Rs300 million that he was talking about that Baber ghauri spent on that KPT fountain

    karachi’s population must be somewhere in b/w 15~20 million..

  16. dictator (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:21 am

    There are several public toilets in London and Glasgow. Most of the public toilet in London are NOT free though. They around 20p for each entry and if its an automated one, then you have a chance to use it for a maximum of 20 minutes, i.e. 1p for each minute (sounds enough). The case is opposite in Glasgow though, most of the public toilets are in malls and don’t cost any but sometime they do cost (same 20p). But let me make you sure, NOT all of the public toilets are cleaned properly here even. But I agree, that public toilets should be introduced again in Karachi, and most importantly SHOULD BE MAINTAINED also because we make thing but we don’t keep that.

  17. alam (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:24 am


    Babar Ghauri is dumb and idiot. If i were running MQM, I would has asked this guy to work in a shoe factory for his life.

    But coming back to public toilets: I think its first step towards more sexual liberal society. (the scoend step is kicking out women from home, and night clubs).

    Public toilets r where the gays hang out. I hope after these public toilets appear, Rs 500 a pop will spread too. All good for society where pent-up feeling is too much, and where even madrassa students get screwed up by their molvis. And where inbreeding and arranged marriages have become the real bane of society, resulting in love-less marriages, more ratrded children, as my our friend BALMA frequently stresses on these “estmeed” pages

  18. balma (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:44 am

    Alam Ara,
    Did you just propose to kick women out of night clubs, or am I having parsing problems?

  19. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 6:52 am

    From pissing in public to night clubs. Thats a jump!

  20. Talha (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 10:17 am

    Very nice article MB. As a nation its really shamefull & shows our hypocracy that we claim to be the torch bearers of Islam & dont give a damn about the core of it i.e. half of the faith is in purity. Althouh I agree with the idea of paid public toilets other wise we know the performance of our govt. owned departments. They have full potential of turning most higenic places like Hospitals into toilets, so one can immagine the would be condition of govt. toilets. Some one mentioned about the abusive behavior of public, that is a reality too. But the thing is, we have to start some day, all the civilized nation today were not like that from their infancy. They were groomed & grew with the passage of time with the concious effort & struggle to improve themselves as a society. If we never give our people the chance how could we expect any change, at least I don’t see any in the next 1000 yrs.

    @Alam, dude either you r a retard or seriously sick. You have some serious issues with molvi’s n madarsas. I bet you had some bad experience with these folks. get some help dude. I really feel sorry for u.

  21. alam (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 12:35 pm


    >>>Did you just propose to kick women out of night clubs, or am I having parsing problems

    Sorry for confusion…too much busy at work. No, I just want women kicked out of homes into professional fields. And I want more and more night clubs, where ppl can hang out, and exchange fluids

    >>>>dude either you r a retard or seriously sick. You have some serious issues with molvi’s n madarsas

    dude, I have more problem with molvis and madrassas then simple homosexual activities. I am not gay, but I like gay ppl.

    Moulvis and Madrassas (MaM) r more dangerous than nukes. Nukes can explode and kill u, but MaM r like AIDS virus. They take time to make u sick and kill u. They spread like virus, thru unprotected sermons. blah blah.

    I am going to do “bait” on Altaf bhai hands, if he and MQM londas can demolish all madrassas from KHI, and kick out molvis and their homo kids from KHI. But i know, of late, Altaf bhai has become a sissy.

  22. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 2:35 pm

    @ALAM :) how can I ever disagree with that, ” they are dangerous then Nukes ”

    am missing BALMA & his youth, where are you ! Balmay

  23. Sameer (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
  24. Sameer (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:10 pm


    MB read it tum toilets ki baat kartay ho yahan banda kis kis cheez ka rona roye

  25. MB (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 6:55 pm

    Thanks for the links.
    Like i said/say everywhere & i shall repeat : We are at the behest of thieves and plunderers, this PM one more in list.

    GOD save us!!

  26. balma (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 9:04 pm

    With cell phone cameras so popular in Karachi these days and digital cameras available all over, perhaps these guys doing their job in public should be photgraphed, and their posters should be distributed all over the city. This will stop these people from peeing and shitting on streets. Obviously, faces of these culprits should not be blurred in these posters.

    Kameeno’n say nipaTnay kaa yehee aik tareeqah hae!

  27. Sameer (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 12:45 am

    I heard kah cell phones wagera se ab koi pic without permission nahin li jasake gi …

  28. d0ct0r (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 1:05 am

    @Sameer yea new cyber crime law has been passed today but who follows the law in pakistan anyway…

  29. Talha (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 10:02 am

    You think by posting pictures of these fools will stop them doing what they do best. If you look at the demography of those people, majority of ’em are from the area’s where they don’t even have streets & paved roads and doing the business in public places is a norm over there. In addition to that, in the back of their mind they know that this is not their city (Mulak) so why even bother. I think the core issue of most of the problems we have is ” The Ultimate Jahalat”. Unless we take some urgent & drastic measures as a nation to fix that root cause, finding solution of any of the mess we have would be a wishful thinking.

  30. balma (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 7:53 pm

    Yes, Talha, I do beleive taking pictures of these guys ‘in action’ and posting them in the area will deter them. “Daikho gadhaa peshaab kar rahaa hae” has to graduate to picture posters…
    Few of these pictures, and I swear they will disappear.

    When there is a masjid at every corner in Karachi (mostly illegal), why can’t these people go use their toilets…it is not that masjid toilets are clean or any thing…they are the dirtiest in the world..so these losers could always use masjid toilets….but no, they have to do the job in public. The only way to make these exhibitionists run is to advertize their faces caught in action all over the area…

  31. pkhan (unregistered) on January 12th, 2008 @ 3:47 am

    “Safai Nisf imaan Hae” why being muslim we are the DIRTIEST city on Earth?These new Fly overs and MEGa projects will not do any good if General Public does not have concept of CLEANLINESS>, then NO body can make them clean. Mullah’s needs to Preach For “JEHAD” Against Cleanliness.Otherwise people will Die Not From hunger but from Diseases which comes through all the garbage which are being accomulated all over the city.

  32. ali bhai (unregistered) on January 12th, 2008 @ 5:29 pm

    ye saare gdhee paindoo ase hi hain jahan daikha wahin shuroo hoagaye ye kabi nai khtam hosakta.
    masjid k toilet ma jao paani ha mgar pthaan patthar say hi saaf kareega civilised pakistan sirf jannat ma milay ga bhaiyon..!
    ye Doctor comunity hay hi aisi….!

  33. alam (unregistered) on January 14th, 2008 @ 5:49 am


    >>>why being muslim we are the DIRTIEST city on Earth?

    Well, 14 centuries ago, how do u think ppl would go to bathroom? did ythey have commodes, flush, etc?

    What this guy in the pic is doing would have been a common sight in that period, no?

    And if he cleans his behind and cover his feece with soil, then it is all clean. I am not sure what “unclean” is there in the pic. This is very Islamic

  34. wasiq (unregistered) on January 14th, 2008 @ 12:45 pm

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  35. pkhan (unregistered) on January 14th, 2008 @ 6:37 pm

    Seems like you are Still in 14th century?

  36. alam (unregistered) on January 14th, 2008 @ 11:34 pm


    no, i am in the 21st century…but I am putting some perspectives here.

    You can say, it seems “bad” and kinda “eye-sore”, but don’t call it unislamic or unclean.

    Look, I am defending Islam here today, and being opposed by infidels like u :D

  37. balma (unregistered) on January 15th, 2008 @ 12:05 am

    On a slightly different note, I propose that toilet paper should be widely promoted for use in toilets in Pakistan. If small pebbles are fine, why not toilet paper. Sure, go ahead and use water after that, but what is this desi muslim fascination with touching raw you-know-what with hand.

    Sorry, this advice is for people who have access to bathrooms or can make an effort to find a bathroom. For people like the one shown in the picture above, the only solution is to have their posters all over the city – their pictures caught brown handed.

    And, finally, why Forum mall in Mahdev slum section of Karachi, has such dirty bathrooms. Once I was in a hurry, but refused to used them. my, oh my, it was the fastest race against time to home, but no, Balma (PBUH) refused to use dirty toilet in the mall in this slum called Mahdev (aka Clifton).

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